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Words and Deeds
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cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: May 20th, 2005 05:36 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Again, wonderfully thought out. I want to say, though, that I'm not conflating myself so much as thinking about how others conflate. That is, I'm trying to think my way out of a theoretical position that seems intractable in this instance. One thing I still wonder, though, after reading your comments, is whether we can really establish a fundamental difference between sexual stimulation done by touch and sexual stimulation by words. If the results are the same, doesn't that make it seem like the divide is tenuous?
leela_cat From: leela_cat Date: May 20th, 2005 09:09 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
True. You are talking about how others conflate, and they alwayss will.

I think that, in the example of sexual stimulation, the words are not the deed. The deed is sexual stimulation. The words are merely the tool used to accomplish the deed.

Maybe that's part of it? Words are a tool, not a deed. The question is whether the words are actually used to accomplish the deed or simply to explore, discuss or describe the deed.

Hmm... must think on this some.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: May 21st, 2005 05:39 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
The more I think about this, the more uncertain I become. To speak or write words is to act. In that sense, there is a deed already, before any other extra-linguistic deeds that might follow in its wake. On the other hand, as you have so nicely pointed out, there is a huge difference between words and actions that go beyond them. Thanks for helping me think through all this, even if I'm unlikely to make it to the other side anytime soon.
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