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cbertsch
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Surprise, Surprise
Since I'm feeling particularly word poor of late, I followed chefxh's lead in taking one of those politics quizzes. The results came as a real shock:
You are a

Social Liberal
(76% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(11% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist




Link: The Politics Test on Ok Cupid
I kept wanting to make the selection that would incline my in _luaineach's feisty, yet fetching direction -- northeast, if you're curious -- but something in me resisted the impulse. Oh, well. At least I'm not totally totalitarian.
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_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: September 19th, 2005 04:28 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

;)

You are a

Social Liberal
(71% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(86% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Libertarian




Link: The Politics Test on Ok Cupid
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: September 19th, 2005 04:38 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: ;)

Now if I could only persuade you to shift your course for a slightly more easterly heading and/or you could persuade me to shift my course for a slightly more easterly heading, we could defeat the fascists together!
From: e4q Date: September 19th, 2005 08:13 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
i am not sure how objective the map is, i think it is very american. at some point recently your friend luaineach mentioned the libertarian group and i scooted over there and had a look. i haung aroung, had some conversation, and thought, hmmm, i thought i was libertarian, but there is something different about these people, so i looked up libertarian in wikipedia, and lo they did reveal to me what it was - libertarianism has a right wing context in the us, but a socialist context in europe. so this means that if the map were drawn differently, from a european viewpoint, say, you would find there is a place for overlap between the socialist/libertarian/anarchcist blobs that are unachievable on this 'map'.
i like the us libertarians, btw, and stayed in the group. mad as snakes, acourse, but it makes a change from arguing the toss with marxists
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: September 19th, 2005 01:30 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I agree that the map seems very American. But there's also potential for overlap between the libertarians and Democrats on it, so it doesn't put the two groups totally at odds. I like things that are "mad as snakes!"
From: e4q Date: September 19th, 2005 02:48 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: September 19th, 2005 03:50 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
i like the us libertarians, btw, and stayed in the group. mad as snakes, acourse,

:)

Encyclopedia Dramatica (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com) described that LJ group like this: "Reading it is a lot like fucking a beehive."

Which seems as if it'd be true.

I love that group. Aside from the handful of people who go off all willy-nilly on emotional flame fests, there's the vast majority who have an astounding amount of politcal/philosophical knowledge and the ability to present such logically. Almost every thread has some bit of new (to me) knowledge in it, be it fine point of practice or perspective on theory. And if you are looking to actually *debate* an issue, I feel the vast majority in there actually *do* so.

Besides, almost all threads dissolve into some full blown argument on semantics, fallacious arguments, ad hoc examples and mayhem, so that always appeals to me personally. :)
From: e4q Date: September 19th, 2005 05:51 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
yeah, i've enjoyed it, and seem to be accepted there, sort of, which is nice. less violent than 'academics anon' which is often a total blood bath
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: September 19th, 2005 06:08 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
There's nothing more violent than a forum full of frustrated academics and wanna-be academics!
From: e4q Date: September 19th, 2005 06:19 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
i'll say.
bitterlawngnome From: bitterlawngnome Date: September 19th, 2005 12:54 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I got virtually the same answers as you did, which makes me think you should move to Canada :)
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: September 19th, 2005 01:31 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
If only. . . They should change that policy they have that discriminates agains 'Merkins.
From: pants007 Date: September 19th, 2005 03:31 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

but what I really want to know is....

What law did you propose? I said that I'd like to see white-collar crimes (including bribery/corruption of all kinds) prosecuted and punished with the same vigor as non-white-collar ones.

By the way: 85% social permissive, 25% economic permissive: who know I'd be more permissive on both counts than you are?

Also: 3 of the most recent 10 proposed laws that I saw involved regulating the "right to breed"--including serious proposals of mandatory IUD insertion. Gives you some sense of the shape of things.
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: September 19th, 2005 04:19 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: but what I really want to know is....

including serious proposals of mandatory IUD insertion. Gives you some sense of the shape of things.

This was actually ordered by a judge here in AZ (in Sierra Vista) right before I left working at the DA's office to have my son (~6 years ago). It was in a CPS case in which the state had taken immediate custody of a baby born to a mother whose last nine children (in ten years) had also been taken into immedate custody by the state. Ordered as a condition of continued state aid.

I left the office right when this happened or was about to happen and then was immersed in motherhood of an infant and so never did find out if the ruling was upheld or overturned or what. Now that you've caused me to remember it, I guess I know what I'll be google searching all this morning. :)
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: September 19th, 2005 05:43 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: but what I really want to know is....

Eeeesshh.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: September 19th, 2005 05:42 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: but what I really want to know is....

I proposed two-year mandatory national service with no possibility of deferment, standard pay for all.
From: graffiti_sucks Date: September 19th, 2005 04:51 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
fuck these bloody tests! thats why i dropped outta uni, so i wouldnt have to take no mroe tests now i come on here and find tests tests and more tests!

bloody tests!
masoo From: masoo Date: September 19th, 2005 06:17 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
You are a

Social Liberal
(85% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(20% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist




Link: The Politics Test on OkCupid Free Online Dating
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: September 19th, 2005 07:14 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
My friends are all more "permissive" than me! Seriously, that word seems so strange in this multi-layered context.
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: September 19th, 2005 11:18 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
And here's for the other quiz, which Elaine mentioned:

You scored as Anarchism. <'Imunimaginative's Deviantart Page'>

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Anarchism

92%

Green

50%

Democrat

50%

Republican

50%

Fascism

42%

Socialist

25%

Nazi

0%

Communism

0%

What Political Party Do Your Beliefs Put You In?
created with QuizFarm.com


Looks like the Democrats, Republicans and Green all have an equal shot at me. With the fascists not that far behind!! :)
hollsterhambone From: hollsterhambone Date: September 19th, 2005 11:38 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Interesting.

You are a

Social Liberal
(85% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(10% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist




Link: The Politics Test on Ok Cupid
commonalgebra From: commonalgebra Date: September 20th, 2005 01:15 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
charlie. I feel so far away from you: I never see you; we don't converse via journal comments. But, I am relieved we are very close in...er...political spirit.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: September 20th, 2005 02:34 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Congress on Friday perhaps? I love reading your stuff. I just have a hard time commenting in a manner commensurate with the quality of your writing!
frostedfuckhead From: frostedfuckhead Date: September 20th, 2005 03:24 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

okay so i couldn't resist.

Every now and then at work I have a half hour to kill... political leaning tests are fun.

I, too, am rocking the 70/10 split for social/economic permissiveness, so don't feel lonely Charlie.

Did anyone bother to check the 'latest results' tree? Overwhelmingly democratic/libertarian/socialist... and they all voted for Kerry.

It would appear as though certain corners of the internet (livejournal/myspace/okcupid) are populated primarily by socially liberal thinkers. This wouldn't be altogether surprising if we were talking about websites with clear political agendas, but this doesn't seem to be the case here... interesting.

In fact it's been my experience that a very large percentage of people I encounter on the internet have been socially permissive Bush-haters.

This leads me to the hesitant conclusion that these spaces/blogs probably don't reach out to very many contrary individuals. Are we artsy folks doomed to be preaching to the choir for the rest of our lives?




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