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A Dream Is A Wish Your Art Makes
While playing basketball today at the JCC, one of the guys -- in his early 20s, I believe -- said, "Did you hear that the Lakers are changing their name?" I grunted. "Yeah, now they're going to be the Los Angeles Laker." I would love to see Kobe Bryant and Ron Artest on the same team. Sadly, that's not going to happen. Not yet, at least. But I can dream. . .

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shadydeals From: shadydeals Date: January 26th, 2006 01:26 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I'd love to see Ron Artest line up next to Kevin Garnett and my beloved trembling timberchihuahuas. It's too bad they won't bother to trade Sczcerbiak. He and Garnett have shown little chemistry. I think it might help them to shake things up a bit.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: January 26th, 2006 03:26 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Ooh, that's a good combination too. I've always liked Artest, despite his insanity. I was fond of him when he was at St. John's.
art_thirst From: art_thirst Date: January 26th, 2006 03:10 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Bryant and Artest together? Sounds interesting but, seems to have inherent chemistry problems (even though the Lakers were said to wanting Artest). I really like Lamar Odom... but, in Miami he was a major part of our success that year. He's so versatile that I think there are problems with finding the perfect role for him on the current Lakers team.

BTW, did I tell you I'm ready Arthur Danto's "After the End of Art"? Very interesting indeed. It certainly makes a lot of sense and has given me a different perspective on my own art production or, current lack of production. I was feeling a change needed to be made for myself as I have been too intent on looking back instead of looking forward (if that makes sense).
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: January 26th, 2006 03:28 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Odom has potential, but he's not going to do much without the ball!

I need to read that Danto book. I like him. I don't have a complete sense of your art, but it seems pretty interesting and "forward"-looking to me. I love all the images that document ritual artifacts or their stand-ins. I often talk about them.
From: bobo_amargo Date: January 26th, 2006 06:57 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Where's the (Posthistorical, Kobe) Beef?

Though I've learned a great deal over the years from Danto (I read that book last winter), I can never escape the sense that there's a whiff of question-begging built in to his theory.

The thesis for an anaesthetic definition depends upon the signal moment at which Warhol shows the Brillo boxes -- a moment at which it is established that what counts as art is materially indistinguishable from what doesn't. Since the Brillo boxes are art, it follows that the definition of art cannot contain aesthetic criteria. Huh?
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 28th, 2006 04:22 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Amidst all this fun lit-talk, why is it that the only thing I can think of is "Danto's Inferne"?
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: January 28th, 2006 06:09 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Isn't the plural of inferno inferni?
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