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Confession - De File
Does Collecting Make You Feel Dirty?
cbertsch
cbertsch
Confession
Well, I was originally going to draft a long entry today explaining why I posted that America-bashing quote in my previous one. But now that an anonymous -- technically, that is -- commenter and tommix have both claimed to know who wrote it, I must confess the truth. I would prefer to have made it a contest, but the internet makes it too easy to identify passages. So without further ado, I present you with its author. Wait, as I was writing this another anonymous commenter -- or perhaps the same one -- just proffered a link to the piece itself. I'll unscreen the comment now, but here it is as well.

Mode: ::averting eyes::

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tommix From: tommix Date: July 11th, 2006 10:35 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Goebbels & Adorno sitting in a tree...
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: July 11th, 2006 11:25 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Or "Goebbels und Wiesengrund, im Baum sitzend. . ." as Heidegger would have said.
hollsterhambone From: hollsterhambone Date: July 11th, 2006 10:52 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Ew, oh God, I feel so dirty now.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: July 11th, 2006 11:26 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
::flinching::

Sorry. I was so interested that I had my standard response despite the source. And I was struck by how little difference there was between his argument and the sort that left intellectuals like Adorno were wont to make.

hollsterhambone From: hollsterhambone Date: July 12th, 2006 01:48 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Yes, exactly. Considering the source (that I know now) and considering how I responded, it feels like even more than ever I'm thinking that those arguments about American culture being "fake" are akin to the sorts of things people say when spreading ridiculous propoganda. I don't feel dirty because of what you did, but because my hunch (what I've been reluctant to shape into precise thoughts) is now more than a hunch. And I'm not even an expert on this stuff!
hollsterhambone From: hollsterhambone Date: July 12th, 2006 01:59 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I thought about this more and I think my beef is even bigger than this. I think it has to do with this feeling of dismissive smugness that I get from that quotation, sort of like the way literary criticism from generations past seems to dismiss someone's literature based on a failure to properly develop a certain character or perfectly resolve a subplot or some such--a detached and cool argument about storytelling craft that pinpoints something small and therefore makes a comment about the whole, when the whole is actually quite interesting or valuable.

Huh, interesting. Thanks! :-)
From: maruta_us Date: July 12th, 2006 01:56 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

zidane, world cup, and confessions

Funny how all your recent posts tie together... I've been following Zidane stuff when I should have been working today...

"Racial Incidents Mar Italy's Celebration"
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/11/sports/soccer/11cnd-italy.html
From: e4q Date: July 12th, 2006 07:58 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
hahahahahaha.
shit. just goes to show, plus la change etc.
re our previous conversation, acourse, as a half scottish half english person now living in england, scottish people give me the bite on the ear whenever i go there, and i have become hardended to it now. halfwits. anyway, whenever people do the anti american spiel, my pat response is "we are all americans now" which seems to shut them up a bit, which is good, and let them know i am not interested in hearing it (again) which is also good.
my newest theory on america is that americans are marxists and europeans are freudians. i have a lot of fun with that. it also puts international english speakers and others in a 'third place' which is interesting.

onwards and upwards!

oh, talking of which, you may enjoy reading this http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=32941044&blogID=141496483&Mytoken=EA1CCD0D-BC49-4B8C-9004488B6B4674C91637699515
i did.

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