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While Arizonans resoundingly approved a spate of anti-immigrant propositions, confirming the depth of their border anxieties, they also demonstrated the state's individualist heritage by becoming the first American voters to reject a ban on gay marriage at the state level:
''We knew all along that once voters were informed about the true impact ... they would oppose this hurtful initiative,'' said Steve May, treasurer for Arizona Together, which organized opposition to the measure. ''They made the right decision.''

A total of eight states voted on amendments to ban same-sex marriage: Colorado, Idaho, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia, and Wisconsin approved them. Similar amendments have passed previously in all 20 states to consider them.
Although I suspect the measure would have passed had it not also targeted benefits for domestic partners, I'm still heartened by this result, as well as the surprising success of Democrats statewide. The Democrat Party may be a bronze Chevy Citation as political organizations go, an unpleasant ride that is almost impossible to love, but it still beats traveling in Karl Rove's armored Hummer.

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schencka From: schencka Date: November 8th, 2006 03:27 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Exaltation! 107 is defeated.

The Wisconsin campaign against their homophobia propostion must've been splintered or weak or something.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 8th, 2006 04:12 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
The Midwest is different, as you know. Folks there might be more likely to support social welfare programs and funding for education -- bigger government, in other words -- but seem to hesitate when it comes to live-and-let-live, tolerance policies.
From: ex_benlinus Date: November 8th, 2006 06:39 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
My folks had a Chevy Citation. A red one. Nice little dependable car. They passed it down to my brother and it had like 160K on it before he totalled it, or had it stolen for the insurance money or something.

I'd like to be able to extrapolate a political metaphor from that little story, but as a democrat, I'm prone to giving up easily, so I'll just let it sit here and rot.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 8th, 2006 08:44 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Democratic allegory is as lazy as a deadbeat dad living off his woman's welfare check.
xmoonbunnyx From: xmoonbunnyx Date: November 8th, 2006 08:56 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I am extremely glad that the anti same-sex marriage prop didn't pass, but all the anti-illegals stuff is sad.

I mean, technically, our ancestors were illegal entrants... We just showed up here and took the land from the Native Americans. How is that right?

But, back to present... If we've banned them from adult education benefits and we've also passed the prop sending meth users to jail the first time around, aren't we setting ourselves up to spend a lot of tax dollars?

I'm not good at politics or any of that crap. But if they can't be educated and they resort to illegal activities like dealing drugs (and using them) -- and they get caught -- then we end up paying for them anyway by means of prison or jail time. It costs money to incarcerate people.

I don't know; it's all weird to me.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 8th, 2006 09:02 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
You're absolutely right that it's fiscally unsound. But the United States has been trending that way for a long time. We spend way more money on the average inmate than the average schoolkid. Seriously.
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