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A Vision For the Future
Walking into Beyond Bread a little while ago, Skylar and I were looking at the headlines on the newspapers for sale out front. For once, everything above the fold was good and appropriate for all ages. We talked about the relationship between Congress and the President afterwards. "Maybe the Democrats can win next time. I think they should choose a darker-skinned woman to run for President. People would like something different for a change. They're tired of lighter-skinned men. An African-American would be perfect."

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art_thirst From: art_thirst Date: November 9th, 2006 04:01 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I had to chuckle but, maybe there's hope for the future. I certainly pray for a better future.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 9th, 2006 04:47 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
She certainly gives me hope. I love the fact that she is so careful with her terminology. She won't say "white" or "black," because the adjectives are inaccurate. For a long time, when she was in pre-school, she would say that Barry Bonds has "dark yellow" skin. Most people would be confused by that, but anyone who has painted in oils knows that yellow is crucial for all skin tones, light or dark.
art_thirst From: art_thirst Date: November 9th, 2006 05:42 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Being around so much art helps with that but, I love the way kid kind of discover things on their own and figure ways of expressing themselves that are different than their parents. We all become so much of what are family is that it's interesting to actually watch it happen.
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: November 9th, 2006 05:54 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I love the way kid kind of discover things on their own and figure ways of expressing themselves that are different than their parents.

This is one of my most favorite joys of parenting. It's just so damn *interesting*. We were camping once and there was a question of whether or not we were staying another night, the decision riding mostly with Jim because of his work schedule. I mentioned it to Jet, just offhandedly saying "I wonder if we are staying tonight or not" and he said "it's still up in the air but it is drifting down toward yes. I just asked dad." Jim overheard this and said "that's not what I said exactly." What Jim had said when Jet asked him? Just the word "probably."

The fact that Jet takes a "probably" and lyrically translates it into "still up in the air but drifting down toward yes" just tickles me to no end. And, it's always a reminder that their brains *are* processing individually.

::waving hand vaguely::

Which is all somewhat irrelevant to the original post, but there you go anyway!
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 9th, 2006 06:08 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
That's a great story. When Skylar said that this morning, I was actually thinking, "Can someone who isn't a white, male Protestant win as a Democrat in the 2008 Presidential election?" I was thinking it, but didn't say it.
art_thirst From: art_thirst Date: November 9th, 2006 07:32 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I had to laugh at this comment too. I got a kick out of that answer. I'm gonna remember and start using it myself. "Oh, it's still up in the air but it is drifting down toward yes." :-)
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: November 9th, 2006 07:37 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
:) And then you can just extrapolate it out on on into poetic lyricism forever!

"...drifting down toward yes, but only if it clears that branch of looks-like-it's-going-to-rain" or "...drifting down toward yes, but there may be a sudden gust of 'my belly is starting to hurt' that will alter its course" ....
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 9th, 2006 06:13 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Oh, absolutely. It's wonderful and scary at the same time. Of course, art and home are inextricably bound up together in our family. I love it when Skylar says something like, "Your art isn't weird, mom. It's surrealism."
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: November 9th, 2006 07:15 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
What I didn't like about that statement is that she opened it countering a negative assumption/projection. While I love that she perceives it as surrealism (which is how I myself generally perceive it, and is in part why I am so absolutely enamored of -- and still want on my wall -- the "Strange Garden" one), I do not like that such a perception be presented as a counter-argument. If you know what I mean.

The same way that, while I enjoy and appreciate her sentiments above, they lose impact for me because of the desire to present them as "People would..." and "They're tired..." as opposed to "I...".

But! We all already know I'm a obsessive freak about such things.

::logging off before I start channelling B.F. Skinner or something::
celebrian_3 From: celebrian_3 Date: November 11th, 2006 07:14 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
My mom tells me that when I was little I used to say that I wasn't white, I was "peach". (I guess that's because that the was the crayon color closest to flesh tone in my palette.) I was just simultaneously amused and inspired by the liberation her comment brings to the table. Imagine if we saw everyone as a work of art, and didn't lump people into such broad categories. There are truly so many shades of skin, that it's a travesty to call it white or black. Just my random thoughts . . .
chrisglass From: chrisglass Date: November 9th, 2006 05:02 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
My special man-friend who the state denies may exist, has been demanding that the age of white-heterosexual-christian-males is officially over.

I hope he, and your little one, are right.

cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 9th, 2006 05:08 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Who knows? Women are certainly doing better in American politics, even if practical equality is still a glimmer on the horizon. And Arizona did -- pending a possible recount -- vote down the ban on gay marriage. Did you see Harold Ford's concession speech in Tennessee? It was very impressive.
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