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The American Way

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elf_owl From: elf_owl Date: November 11th, 2006 06:35 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Christ.
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: November 11th, 2006 07:36 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Ha! Remind me not to use my trance state music next time I give *you* a Reiki treatment! ;)
elf_owl From: elf_owl Date: November 11th, 2006 11:04 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
See, I'm all about the meditation (I mean I meditate pretty regularly) and relaxation and music and such to guide and lead to altered mind states (music on the radio sometimes or shamanic journeys and your cd and even the stuff being advertised here); it's the "INSTANTLY!" that elicited that reaction.
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_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: November 11th, 2006 07:35 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Neurochemical changing (for sleep, meditative/trance states, healing, etc.) music/tones are becoming very well documented. I'm, being both highly tech and transhumanist leaning, all for them. And, of course, am always amused when people think this somehow violates the "sanctity" of the issue, as if it's somehow any different than any other technological advancements that people use daily for their health and well being.

What's further ironic and amusing is, wrt to title of the post, most of the people who are foremost in the field of neurology and the effects of sounds on neurochemicals are not, in fact, American.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 12th, 2006 07:04 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I'm not sure what I think about all this. I do find the parade of ads in alternative spirituality magazines a little absurd and sometimes worse. This one is so, I don't know, 1920s-esque in its confident claims that it struck me as interesting and a little funny, at least from a rhetorical standpoint. But if I could instantly achieve TM, I probably would try it. On the other hand, I'm resistant to dishwashers because I like the experience of washing dishes by hand, which is about at Zen a state as I ever manage to achieve.
celebrian_3 From: celebrian_3 Date: November 11th, 2006 07:53 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
huh? ::scratches head::
dlowestanimal From: dlowestanimal Date: November 11th, 2006 10:21 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
You're seriously going to ridicule "super-deep meditation"? For shame.
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: November 11th, 2006 11:03 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I say we have to go back in time and fix those first non-purist Chinese who added koan practices to zazen in order to speed the process of producing new neural pathways. Look where it's lead!
celebrian_3 From: celebrian_3 Date: November 12th, 2006 12:09 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
oh, of course not. :-) i was just thinking somewhere along the lines of what elfowl was saying above--i.e. how instant gratification seems to be taking the place of self-discipline. i wonder if one truly "achieves the same effect" with such "instantaneous" results. it reminds me of a process the japanese recently invented (at least i think it was the japanese) which can, in a few moments, turn an average, cheap bottle of supermarket wine into something that tastes like an old vintage. but, i have to wonder--does it really? is the experience truly the same? it would be almost impossible to tell, because it's really a measurement of individual perception.

on the other hand, no chef would ever consider cooking his/her gourmet dishes in the microwave. or, at least, i've never heard of any such practice. don't quote me on that :-).
celebrian_3 From: celebrian_3 Date: November 12th, 2006 12:10 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
pardon me, elf_owl.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 12th, 2006 07:06 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Now, now. l left the judgment up to you, my hypercrite readers, my doubles, my sisters and brothers.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 12th, 2006 12:21 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

No "humor" tag?

I think the unintentional cynicism in this ad is funny, whether or not the idea of tech in meditation rubs you the wrong way. I think the target audience of this advertisement perfectly sums up the 'lowest common denominator' that advertising usually aims for. "Boost your intelligence" "at the touch of a button." If only it made you more attractive, to boot.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 12th, 2006 07:10 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: No "humor" tag?

And yet, if we could. . .
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: November 12th, 2006 09:18 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: No "humor" tag?

If only it made you more attractive, to boot.

The thing is, once you reach such states, you no longer think about things like whether you are considered attractive! :) (Which, of course, then makes you all that much more attractive....)
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 12th, 2006 04:16 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: No "humor" tag?

You're speaking from experience, I take it. . . :-)
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