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Stephen Malkmus is coming to Arizona in January and with Sleater-Kinney and Quasi's Janet Weiss on drums. Considering how sharp the solo acoustic show of his I saw in Portland two months ago was, I'm betting that these concerts will be memorable affairs for Pavement-obsessed people like me.

Here's the dilemma, though. He's playing here in Tucson on the 9th at Plush and then in Tempe at the Marquee on the 10th and in Flagstaff at the Orpheum on the 11th. I'll be at Plush, obviously. I think I'm going to try to see one of those other shows too. Tempe would be easier and I like the Marquee well enough. But I've heard great things about the Orpheum and think it would be a blast to experience actual winter cold.

Plus, I've already seen Malkmus perform in San Francisco, Mountain View and Sacramento with Pavement and in San Francisco, Portland and Tucson as a solo artist. I've seen him more places than anyone else a this point. Adding Flagstaff to the list would make for a point of pride. And driving to Flagstaff and back is no more crazy than driving from Seattle to Portland and back in one night, as I did in September or from Mendocino to the Fillmore and back, as I did in the spring of 2001. Maybe one of you will give me the advice I require to make up my mind.

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From: hipsandquips Date: November 18th, 2006 03:49 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
i vote all three ;) and bring me!
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 18th, 2006 04:03 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Can you put yourself in a ZIP file archive?

BTW, I still need to get you the Mouse on Mars etc. Any word on the means of conveying them?
From: hipsandquips Date: November 18th, 2006 04:38 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
haha i forgot all about that. =( i will remember this time!

i wanna go :(
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 18th, 2006 04:56 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Well, if you should end up out here by some 1 in a zillion chance. . .
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: November 18th, 2006 03:50 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I vote Flagstaff. Seeing him in Tempe seems identical to seeing him here, if you know what I mean. I'd go for the "extra" experience but, well, that's me. :)
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 18th, 2006 04:05 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Actually, Tempe would be worse, because it's a bigger, less intimate venue. As Kim pointed out, though, I could stay the night in Tempe and then drive up to Flagstaff, catching all three. I think that would probably lead to diminishing returns, though. Have you been to Flag in winter? I hear it's pretty nice.
dlowestanimal From: dlowestanimal Date: November 18th, 2006 07:30 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I've found that while the drive from Tucson to Flagstaff (and back) is technically not short in terms of hours or miles, it always flies by and feels like a nothing trip. I inevitably end up thinking that it went very quickly and smoothly. (Hope I'm not jinxing your coming experience.) Anyhow, I vote Flag!
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 18th, 2006 02:01 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
That helps. I haven't made the drive up I-17 ever, so knowing that it can seem to go quickly is nice. It's not gruesomely twisty?
elizabeg From: elizabeg Date: November 19th, 2006 12:22 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
It's not gruesome. Or, well, I haven't driven it in years but I don't remember it as at all bad really. I mean, we drove it up and back every summer for years and were none the worse for it. Granted those were summers but I've done it in winter too and it's doable. Flag is nice.
elizabeg From: elizabeg Date: November 19th, 2006 12:25 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
And I'm jealous.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 19th, 2006 02:03 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Well, I'm sure he'll come to L.A. But small venues are special. Thanks for the further input. I do think I'll try Flagstaff.
jstgerma From: jstgerma Date: November 18th, 2006 08:11 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)


I went to Flag last winter with a couple of grad schoolmates (it was actually Spring Break, but that's still winter in Flag). It's a great town that time of year: snow on the ground, pine trees, granola folks everywhere you look. It's my favorite city in Arizona, except of course for Tombstone.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 18th, 2006 02:00 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: Flag

I think I'm going to try for Flagstaff, after your advice and that of others. Do you really like Tombstone that much, aside from sentimental reasons? I haven't really grasped the place. But I haven't stayed long either.
jstgerma From: jstgerma Date: November 18th, 2006 07:48 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: Flag

If you're not on a tight schedule on your way back from Flagstaff, you should consider taking Hwy 89, the road that winds through Oak Creek Canyon and Sedona. It joins back with I-17 about twenty or thirty miles after Sedona. It adds at least 45 minutes (maybe more) to the trip, but it's worth it for the scenery.

I wouldn't expect anybody else to like Tombstone much -- the place is pretty creepy if you're there as a tourist. Actually, it's creepy if you grew up there, too, but it's also got a sort of ineffable charm. Plus my never-to-be-completed collection is set there, so ... yeah, I suppose I do like it that much.

Are tickets on sale for the Plush show yet?
From: catfishvegas Date: November 18th, 2006 10:04 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
The Orpheum really is an incredible place to see a show. I've caught Dan Bern and Wilco there, driving the extra distance and turning around once.
The Orpheum is similar to the Rialto, but maybe about half the size. The intimacy is great and downtown Flag is downright pleasant any time of the year. Forget about the chill in the air and think about the actual air - clear medicinal pine air. Unless there's a snowstorm that week, don't hesitate.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 18th, 2006 01:59 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I was hoping for your input. I remember the Wilco show you'd mentioned. So the road will be fine unless there really is a snowstorm? I've only been there passing through on I-40 and that was ages ago.
tpratt From: tpratt Date: November 19th, 2006 02:05 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
You should do whatever it takes to see all three shows. When do you think you'll have a similar opportunity?
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 19th, 2006 02:17 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I'm considering it. I just worry that I won't enjoy the third one in Flagstaff if I'm tired. I'm old, you know.
tpratt From: tpratt Date: November 19th, 2006 02:51 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I'll spare you the excess Carpe Diem glurge (went to a funeral today, saw the series finale of Six Feet Under this week, etc.), but you really should go. You say you're old - I say (with a smile on my face, I promise) that you're full of shit. I ended up having to leave the Nomeansno show early because I didn't want to be too tired the next day, so I know of what you speak. However, great music is a real restorative for you. The show you choose to miss may be the best one of all, too. Drink some Lipovitan, go to the show, stay in a weird motel, get your Malkmus love groove going, I say. I asked Rob Wright (the greatest bass player in the world and my biggest musical hero and inspiration) for a hug and I'm glad I did. Your options are a whole lot less silly!
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 19th, 2006 03:08 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Well, that's actually what Kim recommended. And Tempe is halfway to Flagstaff, more or less. I'm excited to Janet Weiss with Malkmus. His songs are very complicated and will benefit from her forceful approach. John Moen wasn't bad, but she's better.
From: marcegoodman Date: November 19th, 2006 05:03 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Of course, I thought of you immediately upon seeing the listing for the Plush show. I would gladly join you all the way to Tempe, but I'm afraid Flag would be a stretch too far at this point. The arrival of the Wowee Zowee reissue this week also made me think of you. Listening to WZ for the first time in quite a while, I found my to-be-expected mid-nineties nostalgia glazed with the late-sixties kind.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 19th, 2006 05:30 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
My copy was delayed. I pre-ordered it, but didn't get it until a few days ago. I love the original album. It was my favorite Pavement album as originally released, though the inclusion of the Watery, Domestic EP and Peel Sessions on the Slanted and Enchanted reissue tipped the balance in that direction. Anyway, I might write about the experience of trying to hear it in a fresh way.

As for the shows, Plush will be great. I might try to stay in Tempe and then drive to Flagstaff from there. I'd save gas that way, certainly, and time. We should get together soon. There must be a show imminent.
From: marcegoodman Date: November 20th, 2006 01:49 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Writing "the experience of trying to hear it in a fresh way" sounds like a great idea. Just by chance, my copy of WZ arrived with T. J. Clark's The Sight of Death in which he writes his experience of revisiting regularly over time two Poussin landscapes hanging together in a room at the Getty. Surprisingly, he did not find any similar instances of this kind of art writing.

Let me/us know if there's anything upcoming that you might be venturing out for. The DeVotchKa/Eric Bachmann double bill at Plush on December 18th is the only sure thing for me at this point.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: November 20th, 2006 02:54 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I want to see that show on the 18th, no question. Send me your e-mail again to my Gmail account, if you would. I lost my address book in my mail clinet.
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