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World Enough?
While scrubbing up the unusually thick residue of a holiday visit off the kitchen floor, I've been thinking about the fact that the world I want to live in, professionally and personally, is vanishing faster than the tropical rain forest. Perhaps the only solution is to make a world to replace it. But I'm not feeling very supernatural lately, so I will need a lot of help.

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art_thirst From: art_thirst Date: December 3rd, 2006 10:54 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I've spent so much of my life fighting against the world I don't like, I haven't given a single thought to the world I want to live in since I moved away from San Franciso in 1976. Is my life just a slowly dying dream? And then, once I can perceive what the world I want to live in should be, can I work at it to fruition? I've tried to work at pieces of things for so many years, I can't remember not doing it. However, not enough of the puzzle pieces have come together that anyone, myself included, can make out the image of what that puzzle is.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 3rd, 2006 11:02 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
That's very beautifully put and captures a lot of what I've been feeling. I only sense that world I wanted to live in when I recognize that a part of it has vanished. I do know that, in that hypothetical world, you would be an artist with a lot more free time and money, one who is acknowledged for doing some really important things. I have an easier time experiencing the pain of others than the pain that pertains to myself, so I live through your struggles and those of other people I read with a bit more intensity than is probably wise. Still, it's nice to be able to share in this space, however rootless it sometimes seems.
art_thirst From: art_thirst Date: December 3rd, 2006 11:06 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Nicely put yourself. Sometimes I would like to say things in a more poetic way but, I don't work at it enough.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 3rd, 2006 11:38 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Well, you did a pretty good job of it with that first comment! Besides, your visual art is itself poetic.
art_thirst From: art_thirst Date: December 4th, 2006 12:44 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Thanks Charlie. Bean has some "sweet" little drawings herself I saw today. ;-)
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 4th, 2006 02:24 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
That she does. And to think she sometimes gets despondent over not being able to reproduce the Mona Lisa. . . :-0
mhkrabat From: mhkrabat Date: December 4th, 2006 12:32 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Risking cynicism, I think we were sold a bill of goods as children. You're younger than I by a good ten years or perhaps even twenty so maybe what I'll say is not relevent to your point. I wonder if our parents at our ages felt the same as you (and I) do now? I expect my parents to agree that things are vastly more screwed up now than they were a generation ago.

What I was taught when quite young was to expect things to be like Ward and June Cleaver. By the time I was ten I could see things unravelling but there was no one revising my perception of what I'd been taught and also being left to my own devises, I did not adjust my thinking.

I don't suggest I've somehow been screwed though you'd be forgiven if you felt otherwise. There's so much to be done. Do we do it? Or do we huddle under the covers with those we love? In many instances it's not possible to do both. Choice is required. I think by default or design I've made mine.

cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 4th, 2006 03:22 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
That's a great way of putting it. The thing is, I'm not saying things were great before. But it's not just the bulk of the wealth that has been concentrated in fewer and fewer hands. It's the bulk of the opportunity, even in fields, like journalism, where wealth was never really a realistic goal to begin with.
elizabeg From: elizabeg Date: December 4th, 2006 03:03 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true but I read this, scanned my friends page, then came back in hopes I'd have something clear I could say but I'm not seeing clearly--but even that said, what's true is odds or not what started playing on the speaker just this moment is "Zurich is Stained"--

I'll say that I remember saying once or more than once before that there's a special wonder in what's perhaps not supernatural but definitely metaphysical--we can and do make worlds in words and art and all we're never sure this world has space and time for, to let breathe. We do it all the time, even not trying. I think it has to be enough and sure it may just be one damn extravagant conceit but still.

But still--
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 4th, 2006 04:09 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I certainly want to believe that it's enough. But there's the not-so-small matter of making enough money to live off its being enough. More and more, the things I care about are turning into volunteer activities, as you have personally experienced at 826. I'm all for volunteering. I just don't want everything to be volunteering.
elizabeg From: elizabeg Date: December 4th, 2006 06:39 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Oh, I know. I think about the money question a lot. And yeah, the volunteer gig is great in large part because there's no money attached--even to make money working for that sort of non-profit would change my relation to working there.


I guess I just still want to believe the belief is enough. Or the desire. Or something. That the not-enough (though constitutive) is at the very least as enabling as debilitating when we're faced with confronting. Or something.

I miss you. Coffee when I'm back in Tucson?

At least that would be something.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 4th, 2006 10:52 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Sure. I should be here for part of your visit. Raging Sage, naturally.
elf_owl From: elf_owl Date: December 4th, 2006 08:09 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I'll help!
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 4th, 2006 10:52 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
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