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Pac-10 Preview
Last night's interconference contests between ranked teams confirmed that the Pac-10 is going to be really, really tough this year. Arizona looked sharp against Memphis and Washington was even more impressive against LSU. And let me tell you, that freshman center the Huskies have, Spencer Hawes, may not be Greg Oden, but he's still one hell of a post player on offense, with a complete game rarely seen at his age. I've been heartened by my Cal Bears' bursts of uncharacteristic shooting prowess, especially during the Great Alaska Shootout, but I have to admit that their chances of making the NCAA tournament are not so great. Although the Pac-10 will probably get at least five teams in if its leading lights continue to play this well -- having UCLA at the top of the rankings for an extended period of time certainly isn't hurting -- the Bears will have to work hard to best Oregon, USC or even a dark horse like Washington State to get the fourth or fifth spot. The month-long road trip they commence this weekend, which brings them to Arizona next week, will be crucial. If they manage to break even, they should have a decent chance. I don't see them beating the Wildcats in Tucson, though, much as it pains me to admit that this will be the seventh consecutive year that I've had to watch them go down to the hometown favorites.


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From: hipsandquips Date: December 21st, 2006 07:16 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
i read that as 'last night's intercourse...' and did a double take.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 21st, 2006 07:37 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

I remember traveling through Intercourse, Pennsylvania as a child. It's in Amish Country, which makes the irony that much more delicious.
From: hipsandquips Date: December 21st, 2006 07:40 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
i have an intercourse pa keychain from when i went through.
schencka From: schencka Date: December 21st, 2006 07:32 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I have been heartened by the Lute crew's resurgence. This team is cohesive.

Seniors Shakur, Radenovich and Dillon are "true seniors" who improved skill-wise and got stronger and faster as the years went on. They are complemented by big youngster talent: Budinger, Marcus Williams. UA does lack a true big man, tho'.

Noxious personalities Chris Rodgers and Hassan Adams are gone. Adams, prine of a DUI trial, uttered a slur on national TV last night as a Cleveland Cavalier was fouled into the NJ Net bench.

The teams that go deep into the Tournament have talent and play like Naismith would have them do. UA is on that track, I believe.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 21st, 2006 10:01 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Yeah. It's all about the middle. If they can compensate for the lack of a real post player, they could do very well in March. But there are more good big men this year than in recent years.
amackey84 From: amackey84 Date: December 21st, 2006 09:14 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: Hawes' lack of props

Spencer Hawes is just as dominant, if not more so, than Oden. The problem with the Pac-10 — in any sporting event — is its geography and time difference with the Eastern U.S. The tried and true gripes of Pac-10 fans are true this year — at least so far. If Hawes was on another team that wasn't based in the Northwest he'd be getting just as much hype as Oden. Anyway, I'm just tired of the traditional rips against the Pac-10 (a conference long berated for lacking true big men and physical play). At least this year those cliches appear to be unfounded. Only time will tell, though.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 21st, 2006 09:28 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: Hawes' lack of props

I agree. Oden has more speed and is better on defense, but Hawes has better form shooting. This could be a big year for the Pac-10. Fingers crossed!

frostedfuckhead From: frostedfuckhead Date: December 21st, 2006 10:00 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: Hawes' lack of props

woah woah woah... before we start making this comparison let us remember that oden is still playing injured. he's been having to shoot with his off hand (even free throws)... when he completely heals he's going to be even better for it.

OSU is going to be fucking TOUGH.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 21st, 2006 10:03 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: Hawes' lack of props

I know. But I saw clips of Oden from last year too. Hawes has more range, less speed and strength. Either one could be the best college center in a long while, as freshmen.
jstgerma From: jstgerma Date: December 21st, 2006 09:47 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Hawes did look good. I didn't know he had that kind of range on his jumper. I agree that he's still no Oden, though -- Oden's the most athletic 7-footer I've seen in college since ... I don't know when. Thanks to the NBA rule, there are a ton of good college centers this year. Bodes ill for the Cats in the tournament, I think, especially with Walters possibly gone for the year.

You going to the Cal game? You never know -- UA always seems to play one horrible game right around Christmas.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 21st, 2006 10:11 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
This is the first year I wasn't offered a ticket. But the Cal football team in on that night too -- Holiday Bowl -- so it may be a good thing. Besides, if my presence brought the 'Cats good luck, maybe my absence will benefit the Bears.

As for Oden, I agree that he's amazing. My point in a previous comment was that Hawes seems to have more range and a bigger repertoire of shots.
jstgerma From: jstgerma Date: December 21st, 2006 11:37 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
And if the Holiday Bowl stays true to form, it should be one of the best games of all the bowls. I lucked out and got tickets from one of my students for Cal and Stanford, so I'll be attending my first bball games in more than a year.

Hawes was really incredible the other night offensively. He has great touch, a relatively quick release, nice form, post moves, the works. For all-around center game, though, I'd take Oden (even limited by injury) or Hansbrough. Hawes disappears for long stretches on the boards and on defense, and sometimes when he doesn't have the ball he seems a little stiff. Luckily for UW, they have Brockman to pick up the slack. He's a beast.
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