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grandissimus From: grandissimus Date: September 18th, 2007 06:43 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
The concept of "youth culture," even when it referred to the culture of actually existing youths, has always been the result of adults looking back on their own pasts. It is, in other words, a back formation transposed forward, predicated on the assumption that to have been a youth once is all that it is required to understand a youth in the present.

Your identification of "youth culture" as a falsely ahistorical category I found intriguing. I wonder if there isn't an element of the death-drive behind it, attenuated though it may be, "youth" representing a period of relative homeostasis between body and consciousness, a time when joints weren't yet balky, when the face wasn't yet creased or jowly, when there wasn't yet much noise in the neurologic circuit. To return to youth is to return to this time of fluid corporeal integrity, to a sort of uterine body; it may be that much of what we take to be mind-body duality proceeds from such things as nagging backaches or arthritis.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: September 18th, 2007 07:58 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I really like the way you formulate your point, especially that last bit after the semi-colon. And I totally agree with you. I was reading Beyond the Pleasure Pleasure Principle again recently, so I may have been thinking about the desire for return along those lines without realizing it. More recently, I've been reading some classic texts in Birmingham-related Culture Studies, which is why I zeroed in on the term "youth culture."
grandissimus From: grandissimus Date: September 18th, 2007 08:29 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Yes, I'd be interested in finding out whether Descartes ever suffered from hemorrhoids : )

C. just checked out a book entitled, Teenage, by that guy who wrote England's Dreaming. It's a popular-press title, but I wonder if it intersects with any of your meditations on the subject. I did notice the phrase "Youth Culture" in the book's subtitle.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: September 18th, 2007 08:48 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Thank you for reminding me of that book! I've spent a lot of time in and on England's Dreaming.

I think all philosophers of consequence have had a painful condition of some sort.
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