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Does Collecting Make You Feel Dirty?
cbertsch
cbertsch
Wake-Up Call

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tpratt From: tpratt Date: December 4th, 2007 05:01 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Wow. I don't even know where to start with this thing. The outrageously played-out tribal tattoo design on the bottle? It looks like a fratboy's bicep circa fucking 1994. The "mindblowing role reversal"? Lawl. They even managed to work in a GET YOURS to complete the trifecta of TOTALLY EXTREME DESIGN, ERSATZ RACIAL COMMENTARY, and DUDE WE KNOW YOU LUV TO FUUUUUCK SO PARTY DOWN BRO!!!!

cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 4th, 2007 06:40 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Right. And there are so many possibilities that fall under the category of "yours," though I doubt whether I would be able to get mine there, even though I have, in a displaced form, gotten what I want here, in the ad itself.
celebrian_3 From: celebrian_3 Date: December 4th, 2007 05:23 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
There's so much subtext in this that I can't even see the forest for all the silly trees.

Your tags say it pretty succinctly though.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 4th, 2007 06:41 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Tags as commentary! Yes, there are a lot of distinctive trees in this ad. It's like a museum of natural history.
hollsterhambone From: hollsterhambone Date: December 4th, 2007 05:42 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
So loaded.

The first thing that struck me: I'm guessing the woman in the foreground is supposed to be hot, but she kind of looks like a transvestite.
celebrian_3 From: celebrian_3 Date: December 4th, 2007 06:05 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I thought that too! And the suggestive way she's holding that bottle . . .
hollsterhambone From: hollsterhambone Date: December 4th, 2007 06:36 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I was also thinking I should revise my previous statement a bit. This is not to say that transvestites can't be hot, but that I'm guessing that hot transvestites aren't something the target audience of the ad wants to see.

Hee hee. Bottle as phallus.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 4th, 2007 06:47 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
At least, not transvestites acknowledged as such. So many of the frattish guys to whom this ad is supposed to appeal -- the largely white, middle-class and increasingly middle-aged readers of Spin -- prefer the company of men to women that they'd probably rather have a man with a vagina than a woman with a penis.
celebrian_3 From: celebrian_3 Date: December 4th, 2007 07:01 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Ha ha! There's no way they'd ever admit that, though. Their egos wouldn't allow it.
hollsterhambone From: hollsterhambone Date: December 4th, 2007 07:01 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Touche! I didn't know that Spin was for white men 18-50. I should research before I speak.

This is making me think of all the craigslist ads out there: "I'm a man, and I'm a heterosexual, but I would really like a blowjob, and if you happen to be a male and you're willing to service me, that's okay. And that doesn't make me a homosexual. Not at all."
celebrian_3 From: celebrian_3 Date: December 4th, 2007 07:15 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
hee hee hee!
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 5th, 2007 04:14 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I'm not sure Spin is for that demographic, but it's the one that most of the magazine's advertisers are courting. It used to skew younger, I think.

BTW, where did you see my ad?
hollsterhambone From: hollsterhambone Date: December 5th, 2007 02:13 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Dude, I saw it last week while I was searching for some hot, extramarital, girl-on-girl action. Not that that makes me a lesbian. Or even bi-curious.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 5th, 2007 05:05 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
If men have anal sex in the Muslim world without it meaning anything more than the physical act, why not here? Identity should be based on something sounder than sexual preference. Like God, for example.
From: babyiwasshot Date: December 4th, 2007 10:32 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
" a man with a vagina"

you just provided an excellent definition of "pornstar," which I guess makes my attraction to them homoerotic.

Shit, maybe I'm gay?? Or maybe sexuality isn't so clear cut......no, I've got it; i'm too self-absorbed and this isn't ABOUT me.

Then again, the appeal the she-man has with respect to the "manly" man might stem from their complete distrust of other people and their emotions; they fear emotion, and thus also love, meaning tht the she-man is the perfect partner: an object they can fuck without any emotional investment. A "lover they don't have to love," as Bright eyes would put it.
From: babyiwasshot Date: December 4th, 2007 11:22 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Oh, and the "wide eye" they're referring to is brown, if you catch my drift. heyyyyyoooo.

....i'll shut up now.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 4th, 2007 06:45 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I suppose the "standard" psychoanalytically inflected semiotic reading, if there is such a thing, would see the placement of the bottle as a classic instance of fetishism, since it obscures what would otherwise be a direct view of the woman's lack. But it's more interesting to see the bottle as a dare: "Do you want to see whether my fetish is compensatory or supplementary?"
celebrian_3 From: celebrian_3 Date: December 4th, 2007 06:59 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I'm seriously wondering if there was a deliberately subversive agenda on the part of the advertisers. Though that would probably be too much to hope for . . .
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 4th, 2007 06:42 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
They airbrushed so much, why not the base of the neck?
celebrian_3 From: celebrian_3 Date: December 4th, 2007 07:24 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I don't think they could quite airbrush away the strong angles of her jawline. Though, now that I think of it, considering what I've seen them do with Photoshop these days to other pictures of women (I'm thinking of a YouTube e_compass_rosa posted a while back, where a rather large woman was entirely transformed into a very skinny and "hot" one), I'm inclined to retract that statement, and continue with the idea of subtle subversion on the part of the advertisers.
From: catfishvegas Date: December 4th, 2007 08:39 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Caffeinated Schnapps has got to be one of the worst possible things anybody could ever drink, yet an ad like this will practically guarantee it becomes the "It" drink of some subculture, for some amount of time. That's just the way these things work.
I think they should just go ahead and stock it next to Axe Body Spray and make things easier on everybody.
From: babyiwasshot Date: December 4th, 2007 10:15 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
tags as commentary
From: babyiwasshot Date: December 4th, 2007 10:17 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
shit, somebody already pointed that out.....now I look dumb.

fuck it. whatever.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 5th, 2007 04:15 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Not dumb. Just a little late. . .

:-)

Seriously, I'm happy that anyone notices what I do, however small in the grand of scheme of things my doing may be.
From: babyiwasshot Date: December 5th, 2007 09:00 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I'm happy that anyone notices what I do, however small in the grand of scheme of things my doing may be.

I like this take on the self; it's very humble. My biggest problem is my need for attention, which I augment ; I guess I have a social theory of reality: we're only "real" to the extent that people acknowledge/realize us....

How PAINFULLY American; in fact, it reminds me of something somebody said in that Derrida documentary: "I have this theory that americans define themselves in relation to how much time they spend on camera," or something to that effect.

It's incredibly odd, really: our PREOCCUPATION with the things that grant mass acknowledgement/exposure (films, tv, press, books, etc.) to OTHERS are probably the SOURCE of the social alienation that engenders the desire to be cknowledged in the first place:

I've written about this before: http://babyiwasshot.livejournal.com/453032.html <-------yet another instance of shameless self-promotion.

I'm sure the idea has already been promulgated (in a better way) by somebody else.
carte From: carte Date: December 5th, 2007 12:57 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
pure genius.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: December 5th, 2007 04:16 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Maybe those are tap boots s/he's wearing?
carte From: carte Date: December 5th, 2007 06:17 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I think I need to make an investment in them, whatever they are ....
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