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rbrownout From: rbrownout Date: January 11th, 2008 02:06 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
yeah, me too... Heidegger was actually the final nail in my college-going coffin. (Besides the distracting influences of music and drugs)having been a Math major who couldn't deal with the emphasis on practical application I switched to Philosophy as a major but Phenomenology and Heidegger required just too much focus. btw, I'd like to be friendly, as e_compass_rosa has encouraged me to be, with you. We have some interests in common and I have been enjoying reading you.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: January 11th, 2008 03:11 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Sartre is a gateway drug. . . and Heidegger is heroin!

Seriously, it's great to hear from you.
rbrownout From: rbrownout Date: January 17th, 2008 08:33 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Thanks for being welcoming...

By the way, I took the other "Philosopher" quizzes offered and was less disturbed by

French: Voltaire
Greek: Plato
Chinese: Mozi

I hope to be posting SOMETHING with regularity if not frequency.
From: batdina Date: January 11th, 2008 02:38 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I got Kant. Not surprising, actually.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: January 11th, 2008 03:11 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I'd take Kant over Heidegger any day!
From: batdina Date: January 11th, 2008 03:16 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Most days I'd rather have Husserl. Or Levinas, but he's not German.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: January 11th, 2008 04:40 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
I can see that. My favorite German philosophers either aren't German -- as Nietzsche famously declared himself to be -- or aren't technically philosophers. I'd want to be Benjamin or Wittgenstein, I think.
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: January 11th, 2008 02:49 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
"You are Gottfried Leibniz: Leibniz was a learned German philosopher, mathematician, scientist, engineer, and... a whole lot more. Leibniz was basically a genius. Like Leibniz, you're proud of your education, feel strongly about your faith, are involved in a LOT of fields, and are generally an optimist. "When a truth is necessary, the reason for it can be found by analysis, that is, by resolving it into simpler ideas and truths until the primary ones are reached.""
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: January 11th, 2008 03:12 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
See, that kind of makes sense. I can see you as Leibniz, minus the hair, without straining my mental muscles too hard. But Heidegger? Oh, I must have taken a wrong turn somewhere.
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: January 11th, 2008 03:15 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Oh, I must have taken a wrong turn somewhere.

This is what I'm always trying to tell you! And you should listen to me because I'm, like, basically a genius!!
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: January 11th, 2008 03:28 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
There's no end to my self-abasement, apparently. . .

:-)


Leibniz wrote some pretty sexy stuff for the mathematically inclined, despite the weight of his hairpiece.
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: January 11th, 2008 05:21 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Leibniz wrote some pretty sexy stuff for the mathematically inclined,

That's because systems *are* sexy. And then believe everything *is* a system and we're talking a perpetual state of sexiness!

Isn't there a bit about the best of all possible worlds actualizing every genuine possibility, the same best of all possible worlds containing all possibilities ...?

That's the stuff of orgasms, right there!

Plus, it helps that he was digging the Chinese. Because he was a genius! :)
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: January 11th, 2008 05:46 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
You have him down. I wish my orgasms were more Leibnizian. One of the wrong turns I apparently made was in childhood, when the roots of my populist pragmatism first took hold. I need more possibility and less actuality. Or more actuality and more possibility. Or something. Maybe I just need to be a woman?
celebrian_3 From: celebrian_3 Date: January 11th, 2008 05:13 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
What exactly do you have against Heidegger--just for curiosity's sake, that is?
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: January 11th, 2008 05:44 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Thanks for asking! I recognize why he is regarded as being so significant a philosopher. And I can sometimes connect with him for brief periods, particularly when he concentrates on a specific example from the material world. But I find him terribly overrated overall. I think he gets respect for being obscure sometimes. I hate his use of false etymologies, since the history of words is one of my favorite topics. And it bugs me that his German is so lacking in what I like about German as a language for philosophy, namely its capacity to make the complex more concrete. His German reads the way other Germans read in English translation, which means that the English translations of his work are insanely confusing much of the time. Finally, there is the fact of his support for the Nazi cause. I'm not going to say that his philosophy is invalidated by that support. In fact, one of my favorite Heidegger pieces was written in the immediate wake of his biggest involvement with the Nazis in 1933 and 1934. But I don't think it's an accident that he found the Nazi ideology appealing, at least until he realized how far short actually existing Nazis fell of their standards.
celebrian_3 From: celebrian_3 Date: January 11th, 2008 05:14 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Other than the Nazi part, that is.
carte From: carte Date: January 11th, 2008 05:59 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Hmm I got Heidegger as well ... I didn't make it through "Poetry, Language, Thought" and that's the only thing I've ever attempted by him. But he looks pretty sassy in that photograph.
From: babyiwasshot Date: January 11th, 2008 06:03 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

à propos

You are Friedrich Nietzsche: his major legacies are in the fields of existentialism, post-modernism and Continental Philosophy. He is also known for his ideas about Übermensch, "God is dead", and Eternal Return. Like him, you enjoy reading classic texts and find time for music and writing. "And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh."
kdotdammit From: kdotdammit Date: January 11th, 2008 07:48 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
The fact that I clicked on the thingy to see what philosopher I am, but then was redirected to facebook where I was asked to create an account and establish a login and password and I said FUCK YOU is the kind of philsopoher I am.
_luaineach From: _luaineach Date: January 11th, 2008 08:13 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Hahahahaha!
rbrownout From: rbrownout Date: January 13th, 2008 03:22 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
that confirms some notions I had about the sort of philosopher you are... I said something like "fuck!" or "fuck me!" and went ahead and did it anyhow. would Heidegger have done it that way?
jstgerma From: jstgerma Date: January 12th, 2008 05:14 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

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I got Heidegger, too. I think it's because I put "partying" as both the best and worst philosophy.
From: babyiwasshot Date: January 12th, 2008 01:54 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Take "What French philosopher are you?"

I got Camus, which was a disappointment; I thought I had more of a "Sartre" temperament.
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