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cbertsch
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Devil's Night Might Come Late This Year
I do think the Presidential race is tightening, even though many experts seem to think that Obama's lead is solid. And I also think that it is tightening most in places where the robo-calls and other attempts to present the Democratic candidate as someone who palls around with both terrorism and socialism are likely to be most effective. Right-wing talk radio is hitting all of the McCain strategists' talking points over and over, even if they are still not that enthusiastic about the candidate himself. Furthermore, attempts to question the legitimacy of votes coming from predominantly Democratic districts are starting to get traction. From where I sit, this all adds up to the possibility that November 4th could be a day of tension for those who are hoping for an Obama victory. I also know that if McCain were to prevail somehow, there would be a lot of Americans out there collectively angry in a way that this nation hasn't seen since the 1960s. Even if there were no question about the outcome in a voting sense, the tactics of the McCain campaign, which have made even Karl Rove's strategy for George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004 seem mild-mannered, could come back to haunt him and the nation's social order with a vengeance. Then again, things might just keep plodding along the way they have been. It's hard to get a full measure of a rage that has yet to be fleshed out. But I wouldn't want to be driving a car with a McCain-Palin sticker in certain neighborhoods if their ticket comes out a winner.

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From: babyiwasshot Date: October 23rd, 2008 04:03 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Today I read yet another Joe Klein op-ed and was struck by the following:

The moment of truth may have occurred at an Oct. 6 rally. "Who is the real Barack Obama?" McCain asked. "A terrorist!" a man bellowed. McCain seemed to wince, roll his eyes, retreat. He didn't admonish the man, but the incident was unsettling, and several days later, at a town-hall meeting in Minnesota, he did begin to push back against the ugliness of his crowds. A woman said, "I can't trust Obama. He's an Arab," and McCain replied, "No, ma'am. No, ma'am, he's not. He's a decent family man — citizen — that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues."

Imagine the complete mind-fuck this campaign must be for McCain; if I were in his position, and the above happened to me, I'd start feeling as if I'd sold my soul for the votes of the ignorant "base," which, in all reality, is what the case will be should he win.
masoo From: masoo Date: October 23rd, 2008 10:41 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
Sorry, but I don't buy it. John McCain is no different now than he ever has been. He's a fucking dickhead, and he isn't a bit sorry about how his campaign is being run, except for the part where he's getting his ass kicked.

I wouldn't mind kicking Joe Klein's ass, as long as asskicking is going on.
bitterlawngnome From: bitterlawngnome Date: October 23rd, 2008 10:30 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)
It's scary to watch from the outisde. It's very evident that no matter who wins, even if there is an orderly and lawful inauguration, there is going to be a whipped-up cadre of angry people willing to engage in violence. Make sure you're someplace safe in January mkay? maybe you-all could visit someplace ... moderate?
From: ext_129711 Date: October 23rd, 2008 02:32 pm (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

not seeing the same thing

hey charlie--from my vantage point, I'm just not seeing the tightening you're talking about. Everything I'm reading, every poll, has Obama up nationwide. State-by-state, Obama's up in every major swing state. And while polls are fallible, they're usually pretty accurate. Even if he loses a couple states, he still wins (he could lose Ohio and Florida if he wins PA, NV, NM and CO, all of which look pretty safe). I think he also has a real shot at Indiana, NC, and VA. Plus, I think pundits are actually underestimating the black vote, which is already coming out huge in early voting.

I also have confidence in the Obama ground game. This guy is no Kerry or Gore, and his huge cash advantage will help in the last couple weeks.

So I hope my optimism will rub off on you and that I'm not totally delusional...and now I'll go knock on wood.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: October 24th, 2008 09:41 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: not seeing the same thing

How can I have optimism when Cal lost to Arizona?

:-)

Seriously, things looked way better at the end of the day yesterday than they did twenty-four hours before, when I wrote this entry. I'm still afraid, though. If the Republicans force a fumble or two, it will be a tense two weeks.

Nice to see your blog, BTW.
katieengl From: katieengl Date: October 24th, 2008 08:32 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

outrage turns to blatent racism

i'm no obama fan per se. I was always a hillary supporter and in fact toyed with the idea of voting for mccain because i figured it was better the devil i know... I completely changed my tune after he nominated sarah palin. i felt so insulted by the nomination that was a clear attempt to get ME in particular by nominating a woman with no credentials, or even a firm grasp of the english language, who was so blatantly anti-women's rights. anyway... I've been listening to all the right wing radio pundits for weeks, and if i hear one more thing about his damn birth certificate im going to scream. They are alleging that he was born in Kenya and is therefore constitutionally barred from running. Its so insane. and while Michael Savage is no normal conservative, he's saying to people "anyone who went to college since the 1980's, think what it would be like if the black student union and the gay boys club ran the school, cause that's what youre going to get" Im not even sure what that MEANS but it sounds pretty bald faced racist to me.
cbertsch From: cbertsch Date: October 24th, 2008 09:39 am (UTC) (LINK TO SPECIFIC ENTRY)

Re: outrage turns to blatent racism

I can't stand to listen to that drivel, yet I keep forcing myself to listen. It's instructive. Whatever those folks or even mainstream conservatives say, there's no equivalent on the so-called Left, i.e. the Center, on radio or television.

I remember your objection to Obama. Others I know felt similarly. I think he has done a good job, in my opinion, of addressing some of the flaws in his candidacy and toning down the eloquence in favor of practicality.
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